for rand paul, this is extra tricky. this sounds a little confusing, but imagine this, the foreign policy of libertarian minded conservative republicans like rand paul has more in common with chuck hagel than it does with john mccain. they are opposed to intervention. they're in favor of cutting defense budgets as part of an overrecall reduction in government spending. so libertarians like the idea of chuck hagel, who wants to be part of cuts and who wants to be less interventionist. remember, libertarians want to bring the troops home just as much as many liberals used to when george w. bush was president. so it's complicated for rand paul. he says he's fighting hagel on these principle grounds as it relates to benghazi, as it relates to the disclosure of documents and other things. but if libertarians had their way, they would prefer him to the guy who was just in there, leon panetta. >> rand paul is an intriguing character, if for no other reason than he always maintainses a very, very calm demeanor, but fires some he